Comments on: Everything is politics http://cinebeats.blogsome.com/2008/09/04/everything-is-politics/ Mon, 09 Nov 2009 12:31:32 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=1.5.1-alpha by: Vanwall http://cinebeats.blogsome.com/2008/09/04/everything-is-politics/#comment-1834 Wed, 10 Sep 2008 23:19:22 +0100 http://cinebeats.blogsome.com/2008/09/04/everything-is-politics/#comment-1834 I have trouble watching these, honestly - I last saw "Primary" in the early 90's on a bad VHS, and I was still disturbed and depressed, which was the result for me on all of these; altho I managed to see all of them on too many occasions - it was traumatic for me as a kid to have gone through all that, and it still bothers the hell out of me, especially the scenes with Bobby, whom I really liked. I wasn't a big fan of the Camelot aspect, but the hope of promises realized has sadly not been fulfilled, at least for me and most of the other citizens of the USA whether they realize it or not. Thanks, but no thanks to these - once seen, not forgotten, which isn't something I decided long ago I don't really need. I have trouble watching these, honestly - I last saw “Primary” in the early 90’s on a bad VHS, and I was still disturbed and depressed, which was the result for me on all of these; altho I managed to see all of them on too many occasions - it was traumatic for me as a kid to have gone through all that, and it still bothers the hell out of me, especially the scenes with Bobby, whom I really liked. I wasn’t a big fan of the Camelot aspect, but the hope of promises realized has sadly not been fulfilled, at least for me and most of the other citizens of the USA whether they realize it or not. Thanks, but no thanks to these - once seen, not forgotten, which isn’t something I decided long ago I don’t really need.

]]> by: cinebeats http://cinebeats.blogsome.com/2008/09/04/everything-is-politics/#comment-1831 Fri, 05 Sep 2008 15:22:01 +0100 http://cinebeats.blogsome.com/2008/09/04/everything-is-politics/#comment-1831 Steve - I hope you get to see these films sometime. I think you'd enjoy them. Jonathan - Thanks for depressing me! I kid of course. ;) I share many of your own fears. I can only hope that those old folks also have problems voting for women as well and that will level the playing field a little. Thinking about what America will look like after 4 more years of Right-wing Republican rule is enough to make me nauseous. Ya... I'm a little angry and sick to my stomach at the moment. Steve - I hope you get to see these films sometime. I think you’d enjoy them.

Jonathan - Thanks for depressing me! I kid of course. ;) I share many of your own fears. I can only hope that those old folks also have problems voting for women as well and that will level the playing field a little. Thinking about what America will look like after 4 more years of Right-wing Republican rule is enough to make me nauseous.

Ya… I’m a little angry and sick to my stomach at the moment.

]]> by: Jonathan Lapper http://cinebeats.blogsome.com/2008/09/04/everything-is-politics/#comment-1830 Fri, 05 Sep 2008 12:42:27 +0100 http://cinebeats.blogsome.com/2008/09/04/everything-is-politics/#comment-1830 <i> Maybe he’s suffering from some kind of dementia like Regan and Thatcher?</i> He is! I'm convinced of it. I don't think he is in control of one decision with his campaign. I think the crazy extremists just went ahead and picked Palin for him, no vetting, no nothing. I think it will turn out to be a disaster for him personally, at least that's what I'm hoping. Sadly though, some polls show a still alarming rate of white Americans over 55 (and I'm not intending any offence to older white readers of this blog as the results do not apply to all of them) that will not vote for a black man as President. With people in their forties and under the majority have no problem with it. It's once you hit the fifties and especially mid-fifties and up that the <i>majority</i> starts saying things like they won't vote for Obama. And when you get to the eighties, oh boy! It's like 90% have a problem with it. How indescribably sad. I just hope there are enough people in their fifties and up who have no problem with it who get out and vote and EVERY young person needs to get out and vote as well. That's my biggest worry: Too many eighteen years old through the twenties won't get out and vote, especially since so many will be in their college town where they're not registered to vote. Maybe he’s suffering from some kind of dementia like Regan and Thatcher? He is! I’m convinced of it. I don’t think he is in control of one decision with his campaign. I think the crazy extremists just went ahead and picked Palin for him, no vetting, no nothing. I think it will turn out to be a disaster for him personally, at least that’s what I’m hoping. Sadly though, some polls show a still alarming rate of white Americans over 55 (and I’m not intending any offence to older white readers of this blog as the results do not apply to all of them) that will not vote for a black man as President. With people in their forties and under the majority have no problem with it. It’s once you hit the fifties and especially mid-fifties and up that the majority starts saying things like they won’t vote for Obama. And when you get to the eighties, oh boy! It’s like 90% have a problem with it.

How indescribably sad. I just hope there are enough people in their fifties and up who have no problem with it who get out and vote and EVERY young person needs to get out and vote as well. That’s my biggest worry: Too many eighteen years old through the twenties won’t get out and vote, especially since so many will be in their college town where they’re not registered to vote.

]]> by: steve langton http://cinebeats.blogsome.com/2008/09/04/everything-is-politics/#comment-1829 Fri, 05 Sep 2008 12:34:52 +0100 http://cinebeats.blogsome.com/2008/09/04/everything-is-politics/#comment-1829 I've long been fascinated by American politics and as my wife Susan is American, I've been following events with an even keener interest on UK TV. Susan greatly admired John F. Kennedy and your description of the Robert Drew Kennedy Films Collection tells me we would both be interested in owning the set. I’ve long been fascinated by American politics and as my wife Susan is American, I’ve been following events with an even keener interest on UK TV. Susan greatly admired John F. Kennedy and your description of the Robert Drew Kennedy Films Collection tells me we would both be interested in owning the set.

]]> by: cinebeats http://cinebeats.blogsome.com/2008/09/04/everything-is-politics/#comment-1827 Fri, 05 Sep 2008 10:50:01 +0100 http://cinebeats.blogsome.com/2008/09/04/everything-is-politics/#comment-1827 Thanks for the "real" comment Jonathan. I deleted the spam, which is getting worse lately. Crisis was easily my favorite of the three films so I highly recommend giving it a look if you're interested. I still need to see The War Room myself but Bill Clinton's presidential campaign is almost the stuff of legend. Religion and politics have never mixed well and I'm deeply bothered about the way that so many American people seem to be accepting the two together - actually demanding them - now. I might not be as bothered by it if all religions were treated equally in this country but obviously that's not the case. I thought that recent Saddleback Forum that McCain &amp; Obama attended was just offensive to the entire concept of democracy. McCain's total disconnect is plain strange. Maybe he's suffering from some kind of dementia like Regan and Thatcher? We live in scary times. Thanks for the “real” comment Jonathan. I deleted the spam, which is getting worse lately.

Crisis was easily my favorite of the three films so I highly recommend giving it a look if you’re interested. I still need to see The War Room myself but Bill Clinton’s presidential campaign is almost the stuff of legend.

Religion and politics have never mixed well and I’m deeply bothered about the way that so many American people seem to be accepting the two together - actually demanding them - now. I might not be as bothered by it if all religions were treated equally in this country but obviously that’s not the case. I thought that recent Saddleback Forum that McCain & Obama attended was just offensive to the entire concept of democracy.

McCain’s total disconnect is plain strange. Maybe he’s suffering from some kind of dementia like Regan and Thatcher? We live in scary times.

]]> by: Jonathan Lapper http://cinebeats.blogsome.com/2008/09/04/everything-is-politics/#comment-1826 Fri, 05 Sep 2008 08:40:02 +0100 http://cinebeats.blogsome.com/2008/09/04/everything-is-politics/#comment-1826 And now for a real comment. Kimberly, I love political docs, always have. I saw <b>Primary</b> years ago in college (now they probably just <b>The War Room</b>) and like so many other political docs I'd like to add it to my collection. So good to hear they are coming out on DVD. I never saw <b>Crisis</b> or <b>Faces in November</b> but would love to. As for the religion and politics theme you mention early on I am becoming more and more weary of it. It seems the Republican Party at this point has become the Official Bible Party and it sickens me (and scares me a tad too). McCain has sold every value he once held dear down the river for a glimpse of power. His once distaste for the religious right is now apparently gone since it's half of his ticket. Pathetic. And now for a real comment. Kimberly, I love political docs, always have. I saw Primary years ago in college (now they probably just The War Room) and like so many other political docs I’d like to add it to my collection. So good to hear they are coming out on DVD. I never saw Crisis or Faces in November but would love to.

As for the religion and politics theme you mention early on I am becoming more and more weary of it. It seems the Republican Party at this point has become the Official Bible Party and it sickens me (and scares me a tad too). McCain has sold every value he once held dear down the river for a glimpse of power. His once distaste for the religious right is now apparently gone since it’s half of his ticket. Pathetic.

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